List of countries by intentional homicide rate
Rate per 100,000 people
Top Ten
120-130
160-170
Ah at last we get to Israel. 165th on the list. Canada is 174th. The USA was 121st.
How many murders for Israel? 134 for the entire year. The USA had over 12,000.
You are wondering I'm sure about ghetto crime. Consider this from Wiki:
According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.
So if you want to cut the US rate in half saying Jews are white, remember that most frum Jews live near black neighborhoods whether in NY, Baltimore, Cleveland, or Miami. I had a friend whose father was murdered by a black employee.
As for the Israeli rate, I don't know if this includes terrorism. But according to this site, 12 people were killed in 2012 via terrorism.
So this means that the rate of murder including terrorism for Israel in 2012 is far better than than in the United States.
Now the last time, Israel fought a war with a foreign nation was 1973. That's 43 years ago. You could argue that war was avoidable as Egypt had approached Israel to make a peace treaty in exchange for the Sinai, a treat that Begin made in '79 anyway. Prior to that was the '67 war which Israel started, perhaps in response to a threat. Perhaps not as some in Israel argue. The war in '56 was started by Israel if this information is correct:
"The Suez Crisis, also named the Tripartite Aggression[16] and the Kadesh Operation, was an invasion of Egypt in late 1956 by Israel, followed by the United Kingdom and France. The aims were to regain Western control of the Suez Canal and to remove Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser from power.[17] After the fighting had started, the United States, the Soviet Union, and the United Nations forced the three invaders to withdraw. The episode humiliated Great Britain and France[18] and strengthened Nasser.[19][20]" Wiki
So that takes us back to the war of Independence in '48, one in which Israel's forces were far stronger than that of the local Arabs. Even the Arab armies that attacked six months later weren't much larger than Israel's and were far less organized or well trained.
So can somebody tell me why every young person in this country is in uniform? Last time they did that in America they were fighting the Nazis. Why is there even a thought of drafting Charedim, as they clearly are not needed.
I am starting to wonder if we Israelis, who one thinks of as being so tough, are a bit hysterical. Our country is safer than the United States and about as safe as Canada.
Is the military establishment spreading fear to stay in power?
Or is the problem that Jews make a religion out of whatever they do and Israelis have made one out of the military?
I'm not minimizing the tragedy of death by terrorism. I have a friend from yeshiva whose wife was killed that way. But I also have two friends in America whose fathers were murdered by thieves.
If you look at the rate of terrorism by year, it has gone up as the years of occupation have gone up.
Casualties from terrorism in Israel, 1948-2016, by year
Until the first Intifada, it was about 10 acts a year. Now it's about twice as high.
With the news and the constant hysterical talk you'd think it were 10 a day, Heaven forbid. None of these numbers match the portrayal of constant danger that is used to justifya totally militarized nation and a people with personalities whose harshness is always explained away by noting all we have been through. What have we been through? Our country is safer than the USA and roughly the same as Greece and Finland.
And one wonders, if in fact we could make it a bit safer if we'd allow the two state solution. The data seems to say so. In all of Israel's history, there have been 781 acts of terrorism against Israelis through Jan. 2016. 322 or 41%. are in the WB. Does this mean if that the settlers had not pushed their way in to the West Bank and Gaza there would have been 459 acts of terrorism in all of Israeli's history? Maybe there would have been less.
3,549 fatalities in all of Israel's history via terrorism. The USA loses 12,000 people a year to crime. That's over 100,000 a decade. Before '67 there were 2.7 acts a year, since then 23.
Terrorist incidents and casualties by region (through 6 Jan 2016)
Israel loses 277 people a year to car accidents. That's a death rate that far exceeds that of terrorism which is an average of 27 a year through all of Israeli history! Traffic fatalities are 10x the rate! Yet, most Israelis drive like maniacs. Do you hear anybody talking about traffic safety?
Rate per 100,000 people
Top Ten
UNODC murder rates. Most recent year | ||||||
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Country (or dependent territory, subnational area, etc.) | Rate | Count | Region | Subregion | Year listed | Notes |
Honduras | 84.3 | 6,757 | Americas | Central America | 2013 | |
Venezuela | 53.7 | 16,072 | Americas | South America | 2012 | |
United States Virgin Islands (US) | 52.6 | 56 | Americas | Caribbean | 2010 | |
Belize | 45.1 | 145 | Americas | Central America | 2012 | |
El Salvador | 39.8 | 2,499 | Americas | Central America | 2013 | |
Jamaica | 39.3 | 1,087 | Americas | Caribbean | 2012 | |
Lesotho | 38.0 | 764 | Africa | Southern Africa | 2010 | |
Guatemala | 34.6 | 5,155 | Americas | Central America | 2012 | |
Swaziland | 33.8 | 416 | Africa | Southern Africa | 2012 | |
Saint Kitts and Nevis | 33.6 | 18 | Americas | Caribbean | 2012 |
Maldives | 3.9 | 13 | Asia | Southern Asia | 2012 | |
United States | 3.8 | 12,253 | Americas | Northern America | 2013 | |
Uzbekistan | 3.7 | 1,060 | Asia | Central Asia | 2012 | |
Timor-Leste | 3.6 | 39 | Asia | South-Eastern Asia | 2010 | |
Belarus | 3.6 | 340 | Europe | Eastern Europe | 2012 | |
Kosovo | 3.6 | 64 | Europe | Southern Europe | 2010 | |
Niue | 3.6 | x | Oceania | Polynesia | 2012 | |
Samoa | 3.6 | 7 | Oceania | Polynesia | 2012 | |
India | 3.5 | 43,355 | Asia | Southern Asia | 2012 | |
Egypt | 3.4 | 2,703 | Africa | Northern Africa | 2011 | |
Sri Lanka | 3.4 | 707 | Asia | Southern Asia | 2011 |
Jordan | 2.0 | 133 | Asia | Western Asia | 2011 | |
Sierra Leone | 1.9 | 113 | Africa | Western Africa | 2012 | |
Malawi | 1.8 | 279 | Africa | Eastern Africa | 2012 | |
Réunion (France) | 1.8 | 15 | Africa | Eastern Africa | 2009 | |
Armenia | 1.8 | 54 | Asia | Western Asia | 2012 | |
Israel | 1.8 | 134 | Asia | Western Asia | 2012 | notes |
Libya | 1.7 | 103 | Africa | Northern Africa | 2012 | notes |
Bhutan | 1.7 | 12 | Asia | Southern Asia | 2012 | |
Greece | 1.7 | 184 | Europe | Southern Europe | 2011 | |
Tajikistan | 1.6 | 126 | Asia | Central Asia | 2011 | |
Finland | 1.6 | 89 | Europe | Northern Europe | 2012 |
Ah at last we get to Israel. 165th on the list. Canada is 174th. The USA was 121st.
How many murders for Israel? 134 for the entire year. The USA had over 12,000.
You are wondering I'm sure about ghetto crime. Consider this from Wiki:
According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.
So if you want to cut the US rate in half saying Jews are white, remember that most frum Jews live near black neighborhoods whether in NY, Baltimore, Cleveland, or Miami. I had a friend whose father was murdered by a black employee.
As for the Israeli rate, I don't know if this includes terrorism. But according to this site, 12 people were killed in 2012 via terrorism.
So this means that the rate of murder including terrorism for Israel in 2012 is far better than than in the United States.
Now the last time, Israel fought a war with a foreign nation was 1973. That's 43 years ago. You could argue that war was avoidable as Egypt had approached Israel to make a peace treaty in exchange for the Sinai, a treat that Begin made in '79 anyway. Prior to that was the '67 war which Israel started, perhaps in response to a threat. Perhaps not as some in Israel argue. The war in '56 was started by Israel if this information is correct:
"The Suez Crisis, also named the Tripartite Aggression[16] and the Kadesh Operation, was an invasion of Egypt in late 1956 by Israel, followed by the United Kingdom and France. The aims were to regain Western control of the Suez Canal and to remove Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser from power.[17] After the fighting had started, the United States, the Soviet Union, and the United Nations forced the three invaders to withdraw. The episode humiliated Great Britain and France[18] and strengthened Nasser.[19][20]" Wiki
So that takes us back to the war of Independence in '48, one in which Israel's forces were far stronger than that of the local Arabs. Even the Arab armies that attacked six months later weren't much larger than Israel's and were far less organized or well trained.
So can somebody tell me why every young person in this country is in uniform? Last time they did that in America they were fighting the Nazis. Why is there even a thought of drafting Charedim, as they clearly are not needed.
I am starting to wonder if we Israelis, who one thinks of as being so tough, are a bit hysterical. Our country is safer than the United States and about as safe as Canada.
Is the military establishment spreading fear to stay in power?
Or is the problem that Jews make a religion out of whatever they do and Israelis have made one out of the military?
I'm not minimizing the tragedy of death by terrorism. I have a friend from yeshiva whose wife was killed that way. But I also have two friends in America whose fathers were murdered by thieves.
If you look at the rate of terrorism by year, it has gone up as the years of occupation have gone up.
year | attacks | killed | injured | year | attacks | killed | injured | year | attacks | killed | injured | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1948 | 8 | 379 (223) | 397 | 1971 | 2 | 18 (5) | 36 | 1994 | 42 | 65 (120) | 456 | ||
1949 | 0 | 37 (0) | 0 | 1972 | 7 | 46 (41) | 97 | 1995 | 17 | 29 (62) | 285 | ||
1950 | 0 | 52 (0) | 0 | 1973 | 1 | 27 (0) | 18 | 1996 | 15 | 56 (79) | 330 | ||
1951 | 0 | 41 (0) | 0 | 1974 | 11 | 67 (72) | 265 | 1997 | 10 | 41 (36) | 439 | ||
1952 | 1 | 40 (1) | 0 | 1975 | 19 | 39 (52) | 196 | 1998 | 21 | 16 (13) | 38 | ||
1953 | 3 | 46 (4) | 3 | 1976 | 10 | 14 (9) | 72 | 1999 | 6 | 8 (5) | 2 | ||
1954 | 1 | 41 (11) | 2 | 1977 | 22 | 9 (11) | 177 | 2000 | 29 | 44 (36) | 263 (87) | ||
1955 | 2 | 30 (3) | 18 | 1978 | 11 | 57 (70) | 295 | 2001 | 117 | 207 (222) | 1,548 (1,394) | ||
1956 | 11 | 53 (24) | 30 | 1979 | 32 | 10 (46) | 337 | 2002 | 135 | 452 (487) | 2,284 (2,100) | ||
1957 | 6 | 19 (8) | 2 | 1980 | 22 | 16 (26) | 131 | 2003 | 67 | 208 (242) | 1,002 (858) | ||
1958 | 6 | 15 (11) | 31 | 1981 | 11 | 14 (11) | 82 | 2004 | 45 | 117 (128) | 663 (404) | ||
1959 | 7 | 10 (8) | 0 | 1982 | 2 | 6 (2) | 26 | 2005 | 28 | 56 (73) | 504 (383) | ||
1960 | 1 | 11 (1) | 0 | 1983 | 4 | 21 (10) | 88 | 2006 | 48 | 30 (100) | 383 (1,017) | ||
1961 | 0 | 8 (0) | 0 | 1984 | 10 | 9 (10) | 114 | 2007 | 10 | 13 (14) | 462 (0) | ||
1962 | 1 | 10 (0) | 1 | 1985 | 22 | 27 (27) | 52 | 2008 | 30 | 36 (48) | 679 (449) | ||
1963 | 0 | 7 (0) | 0 | 1986 | 17 | 14 (16) | 49 | 2009 | 14 | 15 (6) | 234 (24) | ||
1964 | 0 | 9 (0) | 0 | 1987 | 16 | 11 (18) | 60 | 2010 | 7 | 11 (11) | 29 (3) | ||
1965 | 3 | 10 (6) | 4 | 1988 | 9 | 16 (14) | 35 | 2011 | 11 | 22 (28) | 159 (93) | ||
1966 | 4 | 10 (5) | 3 | 1989 | 10 | 40 (23) | 41 | 2012 | 9 | 10 (13) | 309 (15) | ||
1967 | 0 | 16 (0) | 0 | 1990 | 8 | 33 (19) | 65 | 2013 | 11 | 6 (8) | 44 (13) | ||
1968 | 8 | 55 (21) | 221 | 1991 | 12 | 21 (22) | 27 | 2014 | 62 | 25 (53) | 66 (90) | ||
1969 | 12 | 33 (14) | 133 | 1992 | 10 | 34 (17) | 24 | 2015 | 108 | 83 | 251 | ||
1970 | 5 | 74 (18) | 63 | 1993 | 26 | 45 (30) | 34 | 2016 | 7 | 4 | 14 |
Until the first Intifada, it was about 10 acts a year. Now it's about twice as high.
With the news and the constant hysterical talk you'd think it were 10 a day, Heaven forbid. None of these numbers match the portrayal of constant danger that is used to justifya totally militarized nation and a people with personalities whose harshness is always explained away by noting all we have been through. What have we been through? Our country is safer than the USA and roughly the same as Greece and Finland.
And one wonders, if in fact we could make it a bit safer if we'd allow the two state solution. The data seems to say so. In all of Israel's history, there have been 781 acts of terrorism against Israelis through Jan. 2016. 322 or 41%. are in the WB. Does this mean if that the settlers had not pushed their way in to the West Bank and Gaza there would have been 459 acts of terrorism in all of Israeli's history? Maybe there would have been less.
3,549 fatalities in all of Israel's history via terrorism. The USA loses 12,000 people a year to crime. That's over 100,000 a decade. Before '67 there were 2.7 acts a year, since then 23.
Terrorist incidents and casualties by region (through 6 Jan 2016)
region | incidents | fatalities | injuries |
---|---|---|---|
Israel | 781 | 1,893 | 10,259 |
--Jerusalem | 228 | 491 | 3,473 |
--Tel Aviv | 68 | 259 | 1,550 |
--other | 485 | 1,143 | 5,236 |
Gaza | 111 | 205 | 363 |
Sinai | 1 | 1 | 3 |
West Bank | 322 | 459 | 955 |
total | 1,215 | 2,558 | 11,580 |
Israel loses 277 people a year to car accidents. That's a death rate that far exceeds that of terrorism which is an average of 27 a year through all of Israeli history! Traffic fatalities are 10x the rate! Yet, most Israelis drive like maniacs. Do you hear anybody talking about traffic safety?
Something very strange is going on here. Look over these numbers yourself and tell me your thoughts.
Here's what I am starting to conclude. The problem is not the Arabs. The problem is secularity. This country was founded by atheists who set up an anti-religious state on the Holy Land. That's amazing because we were kicked out of the land due to our religious shortcomings. So we marched back in and set up a secular state, one without religion.
Now every religious Jew knows that Jews cannot live without religion and we turn whatever we do into religion. Money, art, sports. Whatever. In Israel it's militarism. It's a religion. There's a great expression: "The man who owns only a hammer sees every problem as a nail."
And so the militants get as hysterical over the alleged threats as a rabbi over bugs in a salad. The latter is what's supposed to happen. The former is what happens in this land of fake Judaism. And the result is fatal.
The Talmud tells us that God leads a man in the direction he wants to go. You want an army. You got one. You want secularity and sin. You got it.
I wonder if it's even necessary to propose that Israeli military success is the Satan. It's just Hashem giving us what we want. We want an out of control military culture. We got it. We want firepower. We got it.
We could have had holiness. We could have had peace.
The Am Araztim will take the principle of "Esaiv soneh Yaakov" and exaggerate it wildly. America is Esaiv but America has been very good to the Jews. So you can't go hog wild with that idea. It's out there. We see it. But it's only one line of Torah. There are hundreds of thousands of others that one must balanced against it. Our whole life story isn't Esaiv soneh Yaakov. It's a part of life. It's not everything.
But the war mongers turn it into everything because they don't have Torah.
You have those that portray every Arab as being a killer. There are 5 million Palestinians and there have been 300 acts of terrorism in the last decade. In the 1970s there were about 100. Again ignoramuses misusing Torah principles.
Our battlefront has not changed. The real threat is not the Arabs. It's non-religious Jews, Jews who don't keep the mitzvos.
The picture becomes clear. Why are Israelis so rude? It's not because of the Arabs. It's because of their anti-religiosity. They are running from rules, so why not rules of personal conduct?
The problem has always been our shortcomings in observance. Zionism is the pinnacle of that. It's foundation is anti-religious as were its founders.
That is the source of all problems in Israel. All problems.
Here's what I am starting to conclude. The problem is not the Arabs. The problem is secularity. This country was founded by atheists who set up an anti-religious state on the Holy Land. That's amazing because we were kicked out of the land due to our religious shortcomings. So we marched back in and set up a secular state, one without religion.
Now every religious Jew knows that Jews cannot live without religion and we turn whatever we do into religion. Money, art, sports. Whatever. In Israel it's militarism. It's a religion. There's a great expression: "The man who owns only a hammer sees every problem as a nail."
And so the militants get as hysterical over the alleged threats as a rabbi over bugs in a salad. The latter is what's supposed to happen. The former is what happens in this land of fake Judaism. And the result is fatal.
The Talmud tells us that God leads a man in the direction he wants to go. You want an army. You got one. You want secularity and sin. You got it.
I wonder if it's even necessary to propose that Israeli military success is the Satan. It's just Hashem giving us what we want. We want an out of control military culture. We got it. We want firepower. We got it.
We could have had holiness. We could have had peace.
The Am Araztim will take the principle of "Esaiv soneh Yaakov" and exaggerate it wildly. America is Esaiv but America has been very good to the Jews. So you can't go hog wild with that idea. It's out there. We see it. But it's only one line of Torah. There are hundreds of thousands of others that one must balanced against it. Our whole life story isn't Esaiv soneh Yaakov. It's a part of life. It's not everything.
But the war mongers turn it into everything because they don't have Torah.
You have those that portray every Arab as being a killer. There are 5 million Palestinians and there have been 300 acts of terrorism in the last decade. In the 1970s there were about 100. Again ignoramuses misusing Torah principles.
Our battlefront has not changed. The real threat is not the Arabs. It's non-religious Jews, Jews who don't keep the mitzvos.
The picture becomes clear. Why are Israelis so rude? It's not because of the Arabs. It's because of their anti-religiosity. They are running from rules, so why not rules of personal conduct?
The problem has always been our shortcomings in observance. Zionism is the pinnacle of that. It's foundation is anti-religious as were its founders.
That is the source of all problems in Israel. All problems.
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