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PA does not run the West Bank. Israel does

The PA does not run the West Bank. Israel does. The PA has very little power. I live in Israel and go to the West Bank. You hardly see the PA. But you see IDF everywhere. Whatever we may see from the one Arab you cite in Israel, doesn't help the 4 million prisoners in the territories. Israel has to make a decision, let them have their own country or annex the place and give them citizenship. If Israel keeps them in military occupation then Israel is to blame. This myth that the PA runs the place is another of so many Israeli lies. It's amazing the power they have to spin myths.

The Sounds of Silence

Most Orthodox Jews in Israel operate from a very strange rule that one is never allowed to complain about anything in Israel – not the rocks (a Talmudic principle), nor the government as an entity (apparently a religious Zionist principle), nor the Minister of Fishes and Loaves, nor the bus drivers, nor the cats, nor the garbage cans, nor the garbage in the cans even when the garbage came  originally as Chinese imports. However, Arabs one is obligated to condemn at all times and is encouraged to do so without facts or logic or humanity. Same with political scientists, even the Jewish ones, who criticize Israel ever for anything. Moreover, one is not allowed to even examine his own life in Israel because “three things are acquired with difficulty...” If I had a shekel for every time I have had that line dumped on my head, each person uttering it remarkably as if I would never have heard it before. In other words, there’s a lot of group think here, and repression of thought,

Imagine how they treated the Arabs.

Meir Tobianski On June 30, 1948, Israel Defense Forces captain Meir Tobianski was charged with treason after a perfunctory investigation, before being hastily tried and found guilty by a drumhead court martial. That same day, with no legal representation and no recourse to appeal, he was executed by firing squad.

applies here too

Scholar Henry Giroux tells Paul Jay that Donald Trump is not an eccentric populist, but the representative of a neofascist politics that ignores evidence, believes truth is merely an opinion, and says dissent is unpatriotic

2/3 of the population that was Arab was going to get 2/3 of the land - discussion board response

So I looked into this and must say you make a fair point. I hadn't realized that 45% of the Jewish state was going to be Arab. This means that the 2/3 of the population that was Arab was going to get 2/3 of the land. Now, many would have lived as a minority in a Jewish state, which is beat, but I'm not sure UNSCOP had much of a choice. And it might be a fair point that so many Arabs lived near Jews for economic reasons. Now this point gets exaggerated where propagandists will say that the land had no Arabs before the Jews came and the Arabs only came for economic reasons. And that is false. There were 1/2 million here. But there could be some truth to elements of the economics point. So maybe one could say the Arabs should have accepted either the Peel proposal or the partition plan. Obviously, they should have in the sense that what we have now is far worse, but also from the point that those proposals may not have been unreasonable, at least not ridiculously so.

The Most Difficult Part of Aliyah

We have hit the one year mark. Israelis are often taken aback when I say that I am an oleh. It seems like a difficult endeavor to them. They know life is tough in Israel. And they can imagine how much tougher it is when one doesn't know the language or system. And they are right. Those challenges are very difficult, but none are the toughest part. The toughest part is watching the politics here and the treatment of the Palestinians because that has required me to disassemble my entire sense of Jewishness. In America, most Jews are liberals. And whether that choice be knowledgeable, practical,  or wise is a separate matter from its undeniable historic element of being a choice of compassion and justice. Even Republican American Jews come from a certain idealism, believing, as influenced by Milton Friedman, in the power of the market to improve lives. In Israel I see a different kind of Jew, one that seems to lack any idealism. Not everyone, but most. Here it's a scratch and surv

Eichmann on Zionism

“I often said to Jews with whom I had dealings that, had I been a Jew, I would have been a fanatical Zionist. I could not imagine being anything else. In fact, I would be the most ardent Zionist imaginable… As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our attitudes in the SS and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic Zionist leaders.” (Adolf Eichmann, Life Magazine, November 28, 1960)

Change of outlook

I am American born and live now in Israel. And I had a change of outlook after getting here and seeing what a democracy it isn't, seeing how racist Israelis are, seeing how little discussion there is here, seeing how few Arabs there are in Jewish areas (most of the country), seeing how little terrorism there actually is, seeing how the IDF and police harass, the Arabs - all Arabs, mothers, kids, teenagers, seeing how Zionist terrorists from Irgun, Lechi, and Hagganah are honored here with street names and plazas and plaques.

Israeli, a new term

The Palestine Symphony Orchestra was founded in 1936 under the leadership of Bronislaw Huberman. Huberman, a violinist, at first envisioned an international center for the arts, but instead focused on developing a critically acclaimed symphony orchestra. Conditions in Europe had become such that the orchestra could serve as a haven for persecuted Jewish musicians. Many immigration certificates became available, as the orchestra could provide employment for the refugees. The new immigrants themselves provided fresh talent and energy for cultural pursuits in the yishuv. While Huberman continued to work on behalf of the orchestra, Arturo Toscanini agreed to become its first conductor. He was quick to help

Response on a Discussion Board

Really so simple? Show me the term Israeli in literature before the Partition vote. According to the Jewish Virtual Library (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/symph.html) the Jewish national orchestra founded in 1936 was called the Palestine Symphony. They changed the name to Israel Philharmonic Orchestra in 1948. Is there an Israeli language any more than there is a Palestinian language? Why is an Israeli allowed to call Jewish history his own but a Palestinian is not allowed to call Arab history his own? Arguably, the local Arabs have a greater claim to being Palestinian than the Jews do to being called Israeli since there were far more Arabs in the land - 500,000 in 1880 with only 5,000 Jews.  (Source: Benny Morris) The answer to these questions is that you are a racist. The hostility and condescension in your response is interesting. It reflects an arrogance and an abusiveness that likely attracts you to current Israeli policy. Also wor

The PM Doesn't actually do any work

Following a stormy Knesset session that resulted in MK Haneen Zoabi's removal from the plenum on Wednesday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that he is working to advance her expulsion from the legislature.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       A clash broke out at the Knesset plenum on Wednesday when Zoabi (Joint List) called Israeli soldiers who participated in the takeover of the 2010 Gaza flotilla "murderers." Her comments took place during a session on the reconciliation agreement with Turkey, formally announced a day earlier. read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.727961?utm_content=%24sections%2F1.727961&utm_medium=email&utm_source=smartfocus&utm_campaign=newsletter-daily&utm_term=20160629-22%3A0 some democracy some PM, maybe he should d

The Ubiquitious Washing of the Brain

It comes down like rain, ubiquitous drops that reshape our stony minds, references in editorials to how the Arab leaders rejected all the peace offerings or how the Arabs have attacked us forever and always. It's assumed to be correct, accurate, factual. What Jew would ever speak from ignorance or lie? Not us. We are too wonderful for that. So here's a history plaque that sits innocently enough on Yirmiyahu Street near the Central Bus Station. The text is as follows: "As soon as the UN approved the partition plan, Arab riots erupted in Romema and Lifta. The Arabs prevented Jewish transportation from reaching Jerusalem. on 28.12.1947, a Lehi unit successfully counterattacked the rioters and declared: "Romema is Jewish". On January 23-29th and on March 5, 1948, Lehi military forces liberated Upper and Lower Lifta, lifting the Arab grip on the road leading to Jerusalem." Reading that you get a picture of murderous Arabs and courageous Zionist military forces.

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wall from pal. and isr sides

highest standard of living

West Bank Arabs have the highest standard of living of any Arabs. That's the claim I have heard forever. So let's check the facts. The avg. gnp is 2,000. In Jordan, avg. gnp is 6,000. Oh, in gaza it's 876 dollars. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3354260%2C00.html GDP per capita $1924 (West Bank) $876 (Gaza) [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Jordan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank GDR per capita in Egypt is 11,000 dollars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Egypt why don't we just look at the whole arab league? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_League_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

After Shooting a Palestinian With Down Syndrome, Israeli Soldiers Fled Without Looking Back haaretz

Gideon Levy Whenever Arif Jaradat saw soldiers, he would start to shout: “No, my brother Mohammed!” On several occasions Arif witnessed the arrest of Mohammed, his older brother, at home or in the street, at night or during the day. The sight of soldiers prompted his frightened cry, which his siblings took to mean, “No, don’t take Mohammed,” or, “No, don’t arrest Mohammed.” Mohammed has in fact been arrested five times, serving a total of 52 months in prison, some of them in administrative detention – he was arrested without charges or trial – and Arif lived in constant fear that the Israel Defense Forces would come to arrest him again. Mohammed’s detention in 2006 was especially burnt into Arif’s consciousness: Soldiers swooped down on the house in the middle of a freezing cold night and forced the family – including Mohammed’s infant son of 18 months – into the street of the town of Sa’ir, near Hebron. Snow covered the ground that night. Mohammed was most recently arrested in 2013. I