Jews Against Secular Jewish Nationalism

So the book the Transformation criticizes the Agudah for absorbing Mizrachi organizational methods (Congresses, etc) and then Zionist notions such as moving to Israel as part of the redemption. I can testify that I have observed Zionism in the yeshivah world and been perplexed by it. On one hand, most yeshivish people will talk about not yielding "one iota" - famous phrase - to secular notions but then they seem to espouse Zionism, perhaps without realizing it. I'm not talking about the black hat wearers at Yeshiva University/RIETS. I'm talking about the regular yeshiva world.

My expectation when I came to Israel was that I'd never catch up with Israelis on knowledge of the country's history vis a vis the conflict with the Arabs. Being new to any subject, it takes time to get a grounding. On top of that, the history of the State of Israel, has to be more complex than most places even if the time period is way shorter. On top of that, it's a country full of Jews and aren't most Jews intelligent and informed? Well, I think it took me about a year and half to find that I caught up. That's not to say that it took me a year and a half to catch up. I believe I did that in a few weeks. I just didn't know it for a year and a half because it was at that time that I had spoken to enough Israelis that knew so little about anything that I felt safe in concluding that indeed they are as ignorant as sin over here. Not that Americans are any better, but Americans are pretty bad. Go watch the Mark Dice videos for a demonstration. I'm talking even...

You cannot like the word, but what is happening is an occupation -- to hold 3.5 million Palestinians under occupation. I believe that is a terrible thing for Israel and for the Palestinians. Ariel Sharon Palestine must be built up without violating the legitimate interests of the Arabs.. Palestine is not Rhodesia... 600,0000 Arabs live there, who before the sense of justice of the world have exactly the same rights to their homes as we have to our National Home. Chaim Weizmann

Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it. Ariel Sharon I don't care what the American people think, I own the congress! Ariel Sharon Everybody has to move, run and grab as many [Palestinian] hilltops as they can to enlarge the [Jewish] settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them. Ariel Sharon I don't mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal. What you don't understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it. Ariel Sharon I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. Ariel Sharon You cannot like the word, but wh...

When the Jewish state is established - it is very possible that the result will be transfer of Arabs. Moshe Sharett Fear is the main factor in Arab politics... There is no Arab who is not harmed by Jews' entry into Palestine. Moshe Sharett By the reduction of the Arabs on the one hand and Jewish immigration in the transition period on the other, we will ensure an absolute Hebrew majority in a parliamentary regime. Moshe Sharett I saw clearly how those who saved the state so heroically and courageously in the War of Independence would be capable of bringing a catastrophe upon it if they are given the chance in normal times. Moshe Sharett

What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived. Moshe Dayan Before (the Palestinians) very eyes we are possessing the land and the villages where they and their ancestors have lived We are the generation of colonizers and without the steel helmet and the gun barrel we cannot plant a tree and build a house. Moshe Dayan The method of collective punishment so far has proved effective. Moshe Dayan We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village. Moshe Dayan There is...

The Tuesday morning 20 Tammuz edition of Yated Ne’eman carries a letter from Maran HaRav Chaim Kanievsky Shlita addressing ongoing efforts to draft most of the nation’s avreichim. The rav warns of the possible blow to the yeshiva world, “the contamination of the pure flask of oil”. “Watch out regarding your lives and your very existence for our very right to exist in Israel is from the merit of those bnei torah whose entire existence surrounds their studies. This was simple and clear to every Jew since becoming a nation the great dangers associated with tampering with their purity, the bnei yeshivos, and to chas v’sholom bring foreign thoughts to them. Everyone is responsible to decry this and to support the bnei torah, not the opposite chas v’sholom ובנפשנו הדבר הזה…”

"Should--Heaven forbid--the Zionists succeed in obtaining a country as they hope, they will defile and desecrate it with their abominations and their evil deeds and thus prolong--Heaven forbid--the length of the Exile. Brethren, consider the matter well. Does the Lord delight in these matters and will the salvation of Israel be brought about by their hands? No. We will not accept it under any circumstances. Even the benefit to be derived from these men will we cast before them. Not in this benefit do we delight but in the good granted us by the Lord through the fulfilment of the Torah and the Commandments as it is written 'If you walk in My statues ... then I will give your rains in their time.' In this do we delight and for this is our hope. As for those who help the Zionists, they are strengthening the hands of those who cause the multitude to sin. One who is for the Lord and for his Torah will not ally himself with evil doers nor will he cleave unto them. On the contrar...

Rabbi Aaronson: "Are there not many who were far from Israel and did not even desire to be called Jews, but are now through the influence of Zionism boasting of their identification with Jewry? The Rebbe: "You state that at any rate the Zionists have influenced men who are far from Israel to draw nearer. May I ask in what way they have drawn nearer? Have they begun to observe the Torah and its commandments! No, on the contrary, through the Zionist movement they have moved even further from the fulfilment of the Torah and commandments and from belief in G"d. The Zionists have done even more harm than the 'Society for the Spread of Enlightenment' (Maskilim). The Society gave the people something that was additional to the Torah by spreading their evil view that 'enlightenment' was necessary and obligatory. Seeing that 'enlightenment' and external studies are hostile to Torah-particularly inasmuch as they derive these studies from lying sources-conse...

Only frum Jews are your brothers. Normally this includes the Modern Orthodox. But what happens when the MO act as rodfim? Regarding the Israeli Supreme Courts decision that the Tal Law, which exempted Charedim from military service, was unconstitutional (a strange term since Israel doesn't have a constitution), Daati Leumi person MK  Tzipi Hotovely praised the decision. The Movement for Quality Government and  Meretz , which had submitted the petition to the High Court, welcomed the decision, as well as many Members of Knesset, among them  Kadima 's  Tzipi Livni ,  Shaul Mofaz , and  Yohanan Plesner , and  Likud 's  Tzipi Hotovely . [8]  Plesner was tasked with heading the committee. [3]   Wiki Thus, I argue, that MO like her are not part of our family. One cannot count them in a minyan. One cannot eat their food, etc. One need not daven for them. Side point, has anybody noticed how extreme and militant many of these Russian immigrants ...

Ostrovsky's first book criticizing intelligence agencies in Israel sold 8 million copies. His second was not reviewed by any newspaper in North America except for one in Tuscon, who was promptly harassed by the local B'nei Bris. Who owns the press? Anti-Israel bias? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NTbLx5u_LE

“Out of the 1.2 million Jews who emigrated from Russia at the turn of the 20th century, a mere 30,000 made Palestine their destination, and of those, only a quarter remained there.” Professor Yakov Rabkin: Zionism is a revolt against Judaism. http://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/devastating-tradition-liberalism/ Yakov M. Rabkin "From left to right: Evolution of Israeli society" https://www.amazon.com/Threat-Within-Century-Opposition-Zionism/dp/1842776991 https://www.amazon.com/What-Modern-Israel-Yakov-Rabkin/dp/0745335810/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0745335810&pd_rd_r=XYT22VQZ48KSKQXMQ9BD&pd_rd_w=ICfev&pd_rd_wg=EsRpo&psc=1&refRID=XYT22VQZ48KSKQXMQ9BD

Here's the claim from the United with Jerusalem FB page: Watch and feel the Israeli pride!  Syrians have been suffering for years, and their only assistance comes from ISRAEL! And of course this is accompanied by a photo of a pretty IDF lady solder, at least part of her, stacking some pudding.  Here's the truth: The international community has given billions of dollars to Syrians. As we see in this Guardian article: "The international community must raise billions of dollars more than last year to alleviate the unacceptable plight of Syrian refugees, David Cameron has warned prior to a London donor conference designed to address the consequences of the five-year Syrian civil war." https://www.theguardian.com/.../david-cameron-calls-for... There are tons of organizations that have supported Syria with a lot more than pudding. Here are a few:  Airlink  CARE USA (link is external) Concern USA (link is external) Global Communities (link is external) Global Giving (link i...

"The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces Archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also many cases of rape. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves. "At the same time, it turns out that there was a series of orders issued by the Arab Higher Committee and by the Palestinian intermediate levels to remove children, women and the elderly from the villages. So that on the one hand, the book reinforces the accusation against the Zionist side, but on the other hand it also proves that many of those who left the villages did so w...